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photo emulsion and text.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:21 pm
by gfxbss
hey guys, im very new to screen printing and am using speedball's diazo photo emulsion. i am noticing that i am having trouble with text on shirts. the emulsion doesnt wash out the way i would like.

anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:49 pm
by yaleteamsandtees
Describe the problem.

If the edges are fuzzy, odds are you are under cutting.
(Light from the side)

Or your positive has weak or fuzzy edges.

A little more info and we'll get you fixed up.

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:13 pm
by gfxbss
the edges are sharp. say if i have an A, the middle part comes off with the rest of it. so you get nearly a triangle. same thing with an e. really, nearly anything with an "inside" to it. ive ended up doing some touch up with acrylic and it doesnt look too bad, and the acrylic wont wash out if it is set properly.

Thanks.

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:16 am
by yaleteamsandtees
What mesh count are you using and how are you exposing it?

ie. light source and distance.
Vacuum or foam and weights?

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:27 pm
by gfxbss
im using 10XX mesh. just a 150w lamp w/ aluminum foil around the shade. about 18in away. experimenting with times. im just putting a peice of glass over my transparent image so it doesnt curl...

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:18 pm
by ROADSIDE
mmmm.... under exposure or uneven light source.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:57 pm
by gfxbss
i could see the uneven light even though there are no shadows or anything on it. the exposure time i hope isnt right, as ive been leaving under there for 1-2 hours.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:05 pm
by libprints
I have a couple things to say that may help.. First, I've used that emulsion and its not very good. You need to find one that is a little more light sensitive and exposes in light faster. You may need to spend $5-$10 more than you are now, but it's worth it. You can just speak with someone at whatever screenprinting supply place you go to, and they'll help you. Also, the longer exposure you do, the more light will get under the film and bounce between the film and the screen. This will cause exposing slightly under that dark part of the film that is not to be exposed. I think if you get stronger light to cut down exposure time, and a better emulsion you can prevent this. Try going up to atleast a 250watt bulb, but a 500watt would be ideal. You can get one at a hardware store. This will cut exposure time down to minutes rather than hours.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:04 pm
by gfxbss
libprints: thanks for the advice.

i dont go to any screen printing supply store. i go to united art and education, just because i happen to work in there warehouse. unfortunately, it is the only place in town that offers screen printing supplies. also, the diazo is the only stuff that we sell.

so, going from there, does anyone have any advice on what kind of emulsion i should use? would i be able to order it online?

I will try a bulb w/ higher W.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:57 pm
by ROADSIDE

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:38 pm
by libprints
Try calling Screenworks supply, they are very helpful. Just type in screen printing supplies on the net and a ton of companies will come up. It's really not very hard to find someone near you. And of course you can order supplies online, but if you don't know much about stuff than it is best to talk with a sales rep.

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:56 pm
by gfxbss
thanks guys, you have been very helpful. i have been using speedball textile ink. i know it is not the best stuff, but again, it is what we have at the warehouse. anyone have any suggestions for better textile ink?

thanks again.