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Ink problem

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:13 pm
by wolf1957
I am printing on a black T , and the problem is the the fibers are lifting and making the surfac all bumpy fro lift the fibers. I think the ink maybe to thin? I am doing a double hit with flash between each pull.

Thanks

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:47 am
by tompaine
Does thicker ink help?

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:06 am
by VVP
What mesh are you using? Try using a 110. I know a lot of people might disagree but try pushing the squeegee rather than pulling. For me, I have more control when I push the ink. Especially when using white ink. Push pretty slow the first few rounds and go a few inches past the bottom of the image (this will help with keeping the edges of the image from getting fuzzy). Let the pallets and the ink warm up some so that it is more creamy while your printing. Have you adjusted the off contact making sure the screen is just above the shirt rather than right against it when your printing?

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:07 pm
by wolf1957
We reduced the tack by using less reducer and adjusted the off contact, but what worked the best was having the right person pushing the squeegee.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:29 pm
by VVP
So are you doing waterbased? I thought you were talking about plastisol.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:41 pm
by d fleming
wolf1957 wrote:We reduced the tack by using less reducer and adjusted the off contact, but what worked the best was having the right person pushing the squeegee.
works every time. Now have that person teach the first the proper technique.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:20 am
by Business Forms
Puff is one of the easiest special effect inks to print. Simply print through an 86 or 110 mesh count and cure like a standard T-shirt screen printing ink. ...which ink you are using ?????

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:00 am
by Isbella
make special iron on transfer paper for printing on dark fabric.

That would be your best bet.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:49 am
by taglessthreads.com
To get a good white coat we flood the screen really good before every print and use a 110 mesh screen.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:22 am
by Calibrated S.P.S.
wolf1957 wrote:I am printing on a black T , and the problem is the the fibers are lifting and making the surfac all bumpy fro lift the fibers. I think the ink maybe to thin? I am doing a double hit with flash between each pull.

Thanks
The problem is called "fibrillation" and it has many causes and solutions. The most common cause is due to using a low tension screen, with too thin a coating of emulsion and improper off contact. If your screen is old, or of low tension (wood) and you only use a thin coating of emulsion then have your screen either ON the shirt or do not have enough of a gap (off contact) between then fabric and screen then the ink will create a suction force like two wet sheets of paper do and when you lift the screen up or simply print using an incorrect squeegee angle the ink will pull the shirt fibers up into the mesh.

Another issue is often overlooked is not enough spray adhesive to hold the shirt down, creating a similar effect. Also overflashing can boil the ink...thus allowing the ink to melt down into the shirts weave and then the fibers are not "covered" by the ink. If you see the fibers BEFORE you flash the first print, then all the flashing will do is set them in place forcing you to lay another thicker layer of ink over it to hide them. A quality first printing of white should be smooth, not always opaque as that is another issue all together....but it should be smooth.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:21 am
by ralleydesew
I have the same problem with my C86. She ran out of black ink and I changed the cartridge with the Epson appropriate replacement, but now nothing prints on the page. All cartridges are new. I tried the automatic head cleaning, but in vain. If there is anything I can clean by hand, I'm very practical, just tell me what to do.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:27 am
by charlette
Hi,
The quality of ink plays an important role as it should be chosen as according to the fiber on which you are going to work on. For thick fiber you must go for viscous ink product as they might spread and destroy what you were trying to

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 1:07 am
by anand.alagesan
Put some palette gum. Change the ink as another option and try. Normally the fibrillation happens due to insufficient base holding capacity of fabric by the pallet gum.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:48 pm
by InkyFingers
Use the push and pull method and be sure to cool between flashes, I use a box fan on a homemade stand having the fan blowing directly on the garment to ensure the cooling process this usually works well regardless of what mesh count, I'm not big on off contact in fact I have been printing for 28 years and never used it. Let me know how you make out.

Re: Ink problem

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:44 am
by hobstrabbie
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Re: Ink problem

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:40 am
by jaimejeff521
If you are facing the ink problems with you existing printing, you probably have to try out the new industrial t-shirt printer with the NeoPigment Ink compatible on any Fabric surface. i am going to post some new information about the other good inks that doesn't actually create any problems